Dodger Fans – Fansmanship https://www.fansmanship.com For the fans by the fans Fri, 12 Mar 2021 03:58:36 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.29 For the fans by the fans Dodger Fans – Fansmanship fansmanship.com For the fans by the fans Dodger Fans – Fansmanship http://www.fansmanship.com/wp-content/uploads/powerpress/Favicon1400x1400-1.jpg https://www.fansmanship.com San Luis Obispo, CA Weekly-ish Podcast Episode 131 – Brett Barbier https://www.fansmanship.com/podcast-episode-131-brett-barbier/ https://www.fansmanship.com/podcast-episode-131-brett-barbier/#respond Sat, 11 Jul 2015 15:32:00 +0000 http://www.fansmanship.com/?p=17012 Owen opens the show talking about whining in Los Angeles. DeAndre Jordan’s going to be a Clipper again and this has to be the whiniest fanbase of a first-place team I’ve ever seen. Owen talked about a $30 million difference between what the Clippers could offer DeAndre and what the Mavs could. He later fact-checked […]]]>
Brett Barbier caught the majority of the season for Cal Poly during his junior campaign in 2015. By Owen Main

Brett Barbier caught the majority of the season for Cal Poly during his junior campaign in 2015. By Owen Main

Owen opens the show talking about whining in Los Angeles. DeAndre Jordan’s going to be a Clipper again and this has to be the whiniest fanbase of a first-place team I’ve ever seen.

Owen talked about a $30 million difference between what the Clippers could offer DeAndre and what the Mavs could. He later fact-checked that and it turns out the difference between the two deals was about $8 million and the Clippers’ deal give Jordan an opt-out after three years, allowing him to sign another contract before the age of 30 if he is so inclined. Still, $8 million with an opt out would sure be compelling to me… .

The second half of the show is Brett Barbier of Cal Poly baseball and the San Luis Obispo Blues. Barbier talks about what this summer’s been like for him and also what it’s been like to be able to see some of the incoming freshmen pitchers this Summer.

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https://www.fansmanship.com/podcast-episode-131-brett-barbier/feed/ 0 Owen opens the show talking about whining in Los Angeles. DeAndre Jordan’s going to be a Clipper again and this has to be the whiniest fanbase of a first-place team I’ve ever seen. Owen talked about a $30 million difference between what the Clippers co... Owen opens the show talking about whining in Los Angeles. DeAndre Jordan’s going to be a Clipper again and this has to be the whiniest fanbase of a first-place team I’ve ever seen. Owen talked about a $30 million difference between what the Clippers could offer DeAndre and what the Mavs could. He later fact-checked […] Dodger Fans – Fansmanship 7:45
Dodger fans can finally exhale https://www.fansmanship.com/dodger-fans-can-finally-exhale/ https://www.fansmanship.com/dodger-fans-can-finally-exhale/#respond Wed, 25 Sep 2013 02:24:59 +0000 http://www.fansmanship.com/?p=10818 With a cannonball into the pool, Nick Punto was the personification of the feeling Dodger fans have had throughout the year. When the team came out slow, reasonable fans preached patience. When Yasiel Puig was called-up, there was at least energy, if not a winning streak. When the Dodgers were 9 1/2 game back on […]]]>
Matt Kemp is the Dodgers' version of Buster Posey -- a home-grown star who fans believe can take their team to the promised land. By Dirk Hansen (Own work), via Wikimedia Commons

Which Dodger outfielder will be the odd man out come playoff time? If they make it to the World Series, it won’t matter in the AL park. By Dirk Hansen (Own work), via Wikimedia Commons

With a cannonball into the pool, Nick Punto was the personification of the feeling Dodger fans have had throughout the year.

When the team came out slow, reasonable fans preached patience. When Yasiel Puig was called-up, there was at least energy, if not a winning streak. When the Dodgers were 9 1/2 game back on June 22, things seemed bleak.

We all know what happened next. The Dodgers went 42-8 over a 50-game span and turned the standings upside down.

So, when Punto, Kershaw, Puig, and co. went swimming, Dodger fans let out an exhale that could be felt from here to Arizona. Here are some clinching and pre-postseason thoughts.

How good does this feel right now?

Dodgers fans have been through a lot. Not like Boston a lot, and not like Cubs a lot, but still. The team has not been to the World Series in 25 years. The stench of old ownership had to be washed away by a fan boycott and with help from Major League Baseball.

Criticism of new ownership came swiftly as they spent more money more quickly than an NFL rookie without a financial advisor. It made this fan somewhat nervous.

Now it seemed all worth it. The team is in the playoffs with plenty of time to have their aces lined-up for their first series.

Who will be left out in the outfield?

I think the Dodgers will probably go with matchups. Since they have two lefties and two righties in the outfield, I would expect Ethier to probably sit vs. lefties. Who they sit against right handed pitchers is a little bit more of a guess, but I bet Puig will be left out of the starting lineup at least 1-2 times per series. I guess it gives them pinch-hitting/defensive replacement flexibility though late in games, which is a good thing if the players buy into it.

The pitching staff is all lined-up.

Really, there are no excuses for this year’s Dodger team. They should be able to line-up Kershaw, Grienke, Ryu, and Nolasco. They should be able to bring all their position players into the playoffs healthy. We will get a real chance to see who the best team out there is, and as a Dodger fan, I’ll take the odds with a pitching staff like this one.

Uribe

The much-maligned third baseman who was either injured or didn’t hit at all over the past two years has come up roses down the stretch. A huge contribution from Uribe during a World Series run would make for poetic justice would be served for a guy who took a lot from fans like me. Emojuanuribe.tumblr.com is still one of the greatest websites ever, though. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

A footnote about Arizona

Spring Training was a blast the past few years. The Phoenix area is as hospitable as anywhere else to fans from all over the country.

Their local team, though, is nowhere near as friendly or reasonable. Early in the year, Dodger fans behind home plate were forced to change into Arizona gear. Then this happened.

So, whether the Dodgers disregarded the Diamondbacks’ request, whether they swam in the pool, and whether they peed in the pool, people need to settle down. I wonder how many times the pool has been peed in by D-Backs fans. Probably a lot… .

 

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An Ode to Padres Fans https://www.fansmanship.com/an-ode-to-padres-fans/ https://www.fansmanship.com/an-ode-to-padres-fans/#respond Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:46:45 +0000 http://www.fansmanship.com/?p=9866 It must be really hard to be a Padres fan. In 44 seasons, the Friars have posted just 14 seasons above .500 and have lost 100 games 5 times. Going into this season, the Padres were 511 games under .500 all-time. Since moving into gorgeous Petco Park in 2004, fans have been mixed on the […]]]>

It must be really hard to be a Padres fan.

In 44 seasons, the Friars have posted just 14 seasons above .500 and have lost 100 games 5 times. Going into this season, the Padres were 511 games under .500 all-time.

Since moving into gorgeous Petco Park in 2004, fans have been mixed on the team’s ability to keep star players and stay consistently competitive. This Yelp! review is probably indicative of the feelings of a lot of Padres fans. For a city that is comfortable in the shadow of Los Angeles, the fans are decidedly not comfortable with a team that will always play third to the Dodgers and Giants when it comes to National League teams in California.

Carlos Quentin was at the center of the baseball world this weekend -- for all the wrong reasons. By Dirk Hansen (Own work), via Wikimedia Commons

Carlos Quentin was at the center of the baseball world this weekend — for all the wrong reasons. By Dirk Hansen (Own work), via Wikimedia Commons

This year, the Padres’ outlook is as bleak as ever. They have lost any star power they had over the past few seasons and their roster is markedly bereft of even a single superstar. Adrian Gonzalez, maybe their best player over the past 5-10 years, now plays for the Dodgers. The same Dodgers whose owners have to be the envy of every Padres fan who has been through the ownership tumult that the dads have been through.

Which sets the stage for the travesty that happened last week at Petco.

Carlos Quentin is the Padres’ highest-paid player. He signed a three-year, $27 million contract at the beginning of this year. Quentin, a San Diego native, is a good player when healthy. He has four seasons of 20-plus home-runs and was coming back home to San Diego. The problem is that, mostly due to injury, Quentin has only played over 100 games three times in his seven seasons leading to this year. Part of the reason he gets injured is because he gets hit a lot — the most in the majors over the recent past. For a team that won’t contend this season, a good clubhouse guy with some savvy with Quentin’s credentials might be worth something like the $9 million he’ll average over the next three years.

On Thursday night, though, Quentin proved he is not that guy when he charged the mound on Zack Grienke after being hit by a 3-2 pitch with no outs in a 1-run game. In a situation that nobody would hit anyone on purpose, Quentin took a graze to his armored elbow personally and ended up breaking Grienke’s collar bone.

An aside about why it was all Quentin’s fault

I’ve heard many people talk about how Grienke was as culpable as Quentin for his broken collar bone. This is a decent article by Ken Rosenthal about it. Here are a few real comments I’ve heard and here are a few of my thoughts.

Grienke should have turned his back. Or had different body language. If he would have shown different body language, it would have been different.

What kind of backwards psychology is this? Is Grienke supposed to not pitch inside because he’s worried about Quentin’s thin skin and his feelings? I just don’t understand.

And who turns their back? Seriously. I wish Grantland or someone would get a video clip together of every batter who was hit last year and the 3-5 second afterwards. Seventeen of these instances would involve Quentin, by the way. I bet less than 30 percent of pitchers make any move to say “sorry.” I don’t think saying sorry is the norm (whether it should be, like in Japan, is an interesting question). I also believe that most of these HBPs were probably worse than Quentin’s on Thursday. Somebody put that video together already!

He shouldn’t have gone shoulder to shoulder

When I first saw the collision, I didn’t think much of it. I thought that, like most baseball fights, it was much ado about nothing. Clearly, neither guy knows how to fight. I wonder how many times Grienke has been charged. I wonder how many mounds Quentin has dashed toward? These would all help people understand this a little better.

Carlos Quentin is a punk…

OK, those weren’t exactly the words, but I’ll put this here verbatim from a former Pac-10 catcher who played against Quentin while he was at Stanford:

We are playing Stanford and they were smashing us. I’m catching, freshman pitcher on the mound. Coach calls for us to drill him. I give the pitcher the sign, he throws a strike on the inside corner. Give it again, fastball inside, fouled off. 3rd time, jams him, pops him up. My coach was pissed at me because he thought I wasn’t giving him the sign.

Why he was a guy the coach wanted to hit? The response was that he was the cockiest player on a cocky team. I don’t think I’m super on-board with college guys playing bean-ball, or having a specific sign to hit the batter, but the story was interesting. Let me put it this way, it wasn’t the first time Quentin has been hit by a pitch.

In the end, I believe that if you want to assign about 10-15% of the blame on Grienke, fine. He pitches inside, he’s hit the guy twice before. Situationally, I do not believe he meant to hit him this time.

Good Fansmanship should prevail

So I’m going to put myself in Padres fans’ shoes for a minute. I went to college at UC San Diego and spent over a year as an intern at a local sports radio station there, so I don’t think I’m completely guessing here. Somewhat like the Giants and San Francisco

If I was them, I would be embarrassed. I would hate the fact that my highest-paid player tried to settle a score that dates back to a different year in a different league. In a season the Padres almost certainly will not contend, this will be the most publicity the team will get. If I was a Padres fan, I would be somewhat ashamed. I know what shame is — I’ve been a Dodger fan through the McCourt regime.

Here’s a twitter conversation I had with a Padres fan I respect regarding the incident.

I understand that when you think of your team as tough and blue-collar, a little fight isn’t a bad thing to see in them. If I was a Padres fan, I could almost understand that mentality.

Almost.

Baseball is a LONG season. It’s a sport where little victories can feel really great. Maybe Quentin had a little victory in the satisfying sound of Grienke’s collar bone snapping or in getting years of pent-up frustration out. But it wasn’t good for the Padres. It made them look worse than they already do.

To still root for a team like the Padres is admirable. I have respect for Padres fans. They are usually pretty easygoing and good times — a lot like San Diego itself. But do not tell me that what Carlos Quentin did was good for anyone or anything. It wasn’t.

So I’m going to say this and then leave it alone:

If anything happens with the Dodgers or their fans in terms of retaliation, I’ll be embarrassed. I’ll be sad that the team I root for cares more about a petty cockfight than the whole season. I will be ashamed if fans at Dodger Stadium do anything to embarrass themselves. All Dodgers fans should want is for their team to take care of business and beat-up on the Padres on the field.

Because, by the end of the season, everyone else will have. It could mean the difference between making the playoffs or not. Isn’t that the goal?

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